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	<title>Comments on: News Flash: Jeff Minter is Nobody.  Film At Never.</title>
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	<description>He just never stops talking</description>
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		<title>By: stonecypher</title>
		<link>http://fullof.bs/news-flash-jeff-minter-is-nobody-film-at-never/comment-page-1/#comment-572</link>
		<dc:creator>stonecypher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim:

If you&#039;d bother to read what you&#039;re talking about, or any of the rest of the blog, you&#039;d discover that I am a commercial game programmer, so suggesting that I don&#039;t know what goes into a commercial game is a bit silly.  Also, if you&#039;d bother looking around that kernel you&#039;re talking about, you&#039;d find a lot of my code.  Furthermore, my website runs on BSD.

All that you seem to actually have done is slung an insult, made a transparent mistake, then gone off on a non-sequitor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim:</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d bother to read what you&#8217;re talking about, or any of the rest of the blog, you&#8217;d discover that I am a commercial game programmer, so suggesting that I don&#8217;t know what goes into a commercial game is a bit silly.  Also, if you&#8217;d bother looking around that kernel you&#8217;re talking about, you&#8217;d find a lot of my code.  Furthermore, my website runs on BSD.</p>
<p>All that you seem to actually have done is slung an insult, made a transparent mistake, then gone off on a non-sequitor.</p>
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		<title>By: jim hough</title>
		<link>http://fullof.bs/news-flash-jeff-minter-is-nobody-film-at-never/comment-page-1/#comment-573</link>
		<dc:creator>jim hough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 08:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are F&#039;ing retarded. Jeff Minter to this day has written better visualizations than anything else out there. I seriously doubt you have any idea what it takes to write and debug a game or other program. Would you say Linus Torvalds has a worthless opinion because he isn&#039;t rich from his works? In case you dont know, he is the originator of the Linux kernel, which is most likely running this site where you slam Jeff Minter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are F&#8217;ing retarded. Jeff Minter to this day has written better visualizations than anything else out there. I seriously doubt you have any idea what it takes to write and debug a game or other program. Would you say Linus Torvalds has a worthless opinion because he isn&#8217;t rich from his works? In case you dont know, he is the originator of the Linux kernel, which is most likely running this site where you slam Jeff Minter.</p>
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		<title>By: Curvespace</title>
		<link>http://fullof.bs/news-flash-jeff-minter-is-nobody-film-at-never/comment-page-1/#comment-571</link>
		<dc:creator>Curvespace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might be best off making a counter-argument to the things Minter said, rather than simply slagging him off. If you have a valid objection to the things he said, then show them, rather than putting yourself in bad light. Someones number of Google hits is in no way evidence of importance. Using your system I find that Christina Aguilera is 8.18 times more important that Karl-Heinz Stockhausen.

Aguilera scores: 5,310,000

Stockhausen scores: 649,000

Brilliant.

A couple of quotes for you:

&quot;My Nintendo DS Wifi Bounty alone has more than twice the hits on just its full name than everything Jeff Minter has ever done put together&quot;

&quot;Arrogant

One entry found for arrogant.

Main Entry: ar·ro·gant
Pronunciation: -g&amp;nt
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin arrogant-, arrogans, present participle of arrogare
1 : exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one’s own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner&quot;

Btw. Regardless of what you might think about Minter&#039;s games, his light-synth work and in particular his use of feedback textures has been pretty influential in visualisation software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might be best off making a counter-argument to the things Minter said, rather than simply slagging him off. If you have a valid objection to the things he said, then show them, rather than putting yourself in bad light. Someones number of Google hits is in no way evidence of importance. Using your system I find that Christina Aguilera is 8.18 times more important that Karl-Heinz Stockhausen.</p>
<p>Aguilera scores: 5,310,000</p>
<p>Stockhausen scores: 649,000</p>
<p>Brilliant.</p>
<p>A couple of quotes for you:</p>
<p>&#8220;My Nintendo DS Wifi Bounty alone has more than twice the hits on just its full name than everything Jeff Minter has ever done put together&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Arrogant</p>
<p>One entry found for arrogant.</p>
<p>Main Entry: ar·ro·gant<br />
Pronunciation: -g&amp;nt<br />
Function: adjective<br />
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin arrogant-, arrogans, present participle of arrogare<br />
1 : exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one’s own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner&#8221;</p>
<p>Btw. Regardless of what you might think about Minter&#8217;s games, his light-synth work and in particular his use of feedback textures has been pretty influential in visualisation software.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Archer Maclean is another one who made (admittedly good) clones of arcade machines then waves the &quot;genius game designer and industry legend&quot; flag.

IK and IK+ were Karate Champ,   Dropzone was Defender,  snoker was well snooker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Archer Maclean is another one who made (admittedly good) clones of arcade machines then waves the &#8220;genius game designer and industry legend&#8221; flag.</p>
<p>IK and IK+ were Karate Champ,   Dropzone was Defender,  snoker was well snooker.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://fullof.bs/news-flash-jeff-minter-is-nobody-film-at-never/comment-page-1/#comment-569</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t consider Jeff&#039;s early visualisation/VLM works to be original?

Several of Jeff&#039;s original games include Batalyx, Ancipital and Mama Llama.

Jeff is well known in many circles, and recently his company, Llamasoft, developed the visualisation technology within every Xbox 360, known as &#039;Neon&#039;. Today, Llamasoft is working on a game targeted for Xbox Live Arcade known under the working title &#039;Space Giraffe&#039;.

On Google, a search for &quot;DS Wi-fi Bounty&quot; as titled on your website returns 1,480 pages. A search for Llamatron returns 27,500. A search for &quot;Space Giraffe&quot; Minter returns 25,700.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;q=%22DS+Wi-fi+Bounty%22&amp;btnG=Search&amp;meta=
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;q=llamatron&amp;btnG=Search&amp;meta=
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;q=%22space+giraffe%22+minter&amp;btnG=Search&amp;meta=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t consider Jeff&#8217;s early visualisation/VLM works to be original?</p>
<p>Several of Jeff&#8217;s original games include Batalyx, Ancipital and Mama Llama.</p>
<p>Jeff is well known in many circles, and recently his company, Llamasoft, developed the visualisation technology within every Xbox 360, known as &#8216;Neon&#8217;. Today, Llamasoft is working on a game targeted for Xbox Live Arcade known under the working title &#8216;Space Giraffe&#8217;.</p>
<p>On Google, a search for &#8220;DS Wi-fi Bounty&#8221; as titled on your website returns 1,480 pages. A search for Llamatron returns 27,500. A search for &#8220;Space Giraffe&#8221; Minter returns 25,700.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&#038;safe=off&#038;q=%22DS+Wi-fi+Bounty%22&#038;btnG=Search&#038;meta" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&#038;safe=off&#038;q=%22DS+Wi-fi+Bounty%22&#038;btnG=Search&#038;meta</a>=<br />
<a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&#038;safe=off&#038;q=llamatron&#038;btnG=Search&#038;meta" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&#038;safe=off&#038;q=llamatron&#038;btnG=Search&#038;meta</a>=<br />
<a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&#038;safe=off&#038;q=%22space+giraffe%22+minter&#038;btnG=Search&#038;meta" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&#038;safe=off&#038;q=%22space+giraffe%22+minter&#038;btnG=Search&#038;meta</a>=</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Muller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Muller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 22:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff Minter *was* one of the most famous games developers in the 1980s in Britain. If the BBC researcher is in his/her 30s, he will most likely have heard of him, along with Matthew Smith (Manic Miner), Archer McLean (Dropzone) and Tony Crowther (Loco), and musicians like Rob Hubbard and Martin Galway. Foreigners like Meier, Iwata and Yokoi didn&#039;t register in the UK press in the 1980s, although Eugene Jarvis, Ed Logg and maybe Bill Hogue would have. I think even Toru Iwatani was unknown at the time due to namco&#039;s secrecy. Jeff would have been talked about almost every month in the mid 1980s magazines.

Edge *was* the respected games magazine (it had all the developer job adverts in its back pages) until GamesTM stole a march on it recently. But they were always up themselves. AFAIK there are *no* respectable consumer gamer magazines published in the USA, but Game Developer is good from the developer point of view (as is Develop in the UK of course).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Minter *was* one of the most famous games developers in the 1980s in Britain. If the BBC researcher is in his/her 30s, he will most likely have heard of him, along with Matthew Smith (Manic Miner), Archer McLean (Dropzone) and Tony Crowther (Loco), and musicians like Rob Hubbard and Martin Galway. Foreigners like Meier, Iwata and Yokoi didn&#8217;t register in the UK press in the 1980s, although Eugene Jarvis, Ed Logg and maybe Bill Hogue would have. I think even Toru Iwatani was unknown at the time due to namco&#8217;s secrecy. Jeff would have been talked about almost every month in the mid 1980s magazines.</p>
<p>Edge *was* the respected games magazine (it had all the developer job adverts in its back pages) until GamesTM stole a march on it recently. But they were always up themselves. AFAIK there are *no* respectable consumer gamer magazines published in the USA, but Game Developer is good from the developer point of view (as is Develop in the UK of course).</p>
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